AMD’s next-gen Ryzen 8000 Fire Range, Strix Point, and Hawk Point APUs Zen 5 and Zen 4 with RDNA 3.5 GPU cores have been leaked by Moore’s Law is Dead.
AMD Ryzen 8000 Zen 5 APU lineup will include Fire Range and Strix Point families, Hawk Point as Zen 4 upgrade with RDNA 3.5 GPU
The latest information from Moore’s Law is Dead purportedly comes from an internal roadmap leak that points to several families of next-generation APUs that AMD will be releasing next year. It seems that the Zen 5 will be the main focus for next year along with some Zen 4 updates that were also reported in the leak.
So, starting with the details, it seems that AMD will most likely talk about its next generation Ryzen APU families for laptops at CES 2024. The first family expected to hit the shelves will be Hawk Point followed by Strix Point and Fire Range APU. Next year will be a mix of Zen 5 and Zen 4, while the desktop platform will see the launch of a brand new Zen 5.
AMD Hawk Point APU: Phoenix Update with Zen 4 cores and RDNA 3.5 GPU, launch Q1 2024
As mentioned earlier, the AMD Hawk Point APUs will be the first to hit shelves, and based on the rumors, it appears to be an upgrade of the existing Phoenix chips based on a slightly tweaked 4nm design. You’re still getting the same Zen 4 cores but with an updated RDNA 3.5 GPU and XDNA cores to round things out.
Since this family is mostly an upgrade, AMD can have the laptops readily available to consumers. As we talk about the Phoenix update, the original Phoenix APUs are yet to launch but are expected to retail later this month as the Ryzen 7040 series. The update will likely fall under the AMD Ryzen 8040 series.
- Zen 4 (4nm) Monolithic design
- Up to 8 cores
- 12 RDNA 3+ Compute Units
- Integrated XDNA engine
- Q1 launch (expected)
AMD Fire Range APU: Enthusiast Dragon Range successor with 16 Zen 5 cores in H2 2024
On the enthusiast front, AMD’s Ryzen 7045 “Dragon Range” APUs will be replaced by Fire Range APUs which are expected to feature up to 16 Zen 5 cores. While the core count remains the same as the current generation offerings, the new chips will offer a significant increase in overall performance due to the updated architecture and will offer even greater efficiency.
These APUs are said to use the 5nm variant of the Zen 5 cores, which indicates that the desktop lineup maintains the 5nm node. There is also some confusion as to whether the chip will house RDNA 2 or RDNA 3.5 cores, but since it will most likely only use 2 compute units, either one would be good enough for the expected tasks of an iGPU at low consumption. We will most likely get these APUs as the Ryzen 8055 series (Ryzen 8000 APU line).
- Zen 5 (5nm) Monolithic design
- Up to 16 cores
- RDNA 3+ graphics cores
- Launch 2H 2024 (expected)
AMD Strix Point APU: up to 16 Zen 5 cores, 40 RDNA 3.5 compute units, and 120W TDP in mono and chiplet designs
Now let’s move on to the juicier details and these concern the Strix Point APUs. According to the rumors, AMD’s Strix Point APUs will be available in two flavors, a monolithic die and a chiplet design. Both will use the 4nm Zen 5 CPU and RDNA 3.5 GPUs. We will most likely get these APUs as the Ryzen 8050 series (Ryzen 8000 APU line).
AMD Strix Point Mono
The AMD Strix Point Monolithic design will look just like a traditional APU design, but for the first time in many years, AMD will be increasing the core count from 8 to 12 for monolithic designs. This will be accomplished using a hybrid design approach that features 4 standard Zen 5 and 8 Zen 5C cores in a 4+8 (4/8 + 8/16) package, rounding up to a total of 24 threads. The APU will get 24.0MB of L3 unified cache across all Zen 5/5C cores and is said to be 35% faster than Phoenix at the same power (50W) in early Cinebench R23 benchmarks.
For the GPU side of the Strix Point Mono, you will get 16 CU RDNA 3.5 in 8 WGP. There’s no integrated Infinity Cache yet, but performance is said to be on par with an RTX 3050 Max-Q GPU. It also features a 128-bit LPDDR5X memory controller and offers up to 20 AI Engine processing TOPs.
- Zen 5 (4nm) Monolithic design
- Up to 12 cores in hybrid configuration (Zen 5 + Zen 5C)
- 32MB shared L3 cache
- 35% faster CPU than Phoenix at 50W
- 16 RDNA 3+ Compute Units
- On par with RTX 3050 Max-Q
- 128-bit LPDDR5X memory controller
- Integrated XDNA engine
- AI 20 TOPS engine
- Launch Q2-Q3 (expected)
AMD Strix Point chiplets
The AMD Strix Point chiplet is the more interesting of the two and is labeled a “Halo” product. This will be the first APU with a consumer chiplet design featuring up to 16 Zen 5 cores with 32 threads, and will offer 25% faster performance than a 16-core Dragon Range chip at the same wattage (90W). It will also have 12, 8 and 6 core variants with 64MB of L3 cache (32MB per chiplet) and some impressive efficiency improvements.
The GPU side gets an even bigger upgrade with up to 40 RDNA 3.5 CUs in 20 WGPs plus 32 MB of on-die infinite cache. This should work similar to RTX 4070 and RTX 4060 Max-Q GPUs. Certainly, an iGPU of this size and performance will be very beneficial for battery times on laptops, and the chip will have a peak TDP of 120W. It will also carry a 256-bit LPDDR5X controller and offer 40 TOPS AI calculations.
- Zen 5 chiplet design
- Up to 16 cores
- 64MB shared L3 cache
- 25% faster CPU than 90W 16-core Dragon range
- 40 RDNA 3+ Compute Units
- On par with RTX 4070 Max-Q (90W)
- 256-bit LPDDR5X memory controller
- Integrated XDNA engine
- AI 40 TOPS engine
- Launch 2H 2024 (expected)
According to Kepler_L2, Strix Point Halo APUs are now known as Sarlak.
Strix Halo is called Sarlak now afaik.
Kepler (@Kepler_L2) April 22, 2023
The first AMD Zen 5 Ryzen 8000 APUs aren’t expected until mid-2024 as these leaks indicate, so there’s still a year to go until launch and a lot could change. But if this information is true, then the red team indeed has some formidable chips in the laptop segment to go against Intel’s Meteor Lake and Arrow Lake offerings.
AMD Ryzen Mobile CPUs:
CPU family name | AMD fire range | AMD Strix Point Halo | Point AMD Strix | AMD Hawk Point | AMD Dragon range | AMD Phoenix | Amd Rembrandt | AMD Cezanne | AMD Renoir | AMDPicasso | AMD Raven Ridge |
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Family brand | AMD Ryzen 8055 (HX series) | AMD Ryzen 8050 (H-series) | AMD Ryzen 8050 (H/U series) | AMD Ryzen 8040 (H/U series) | AMD Ryzen 7045 (HX series) | AMD Ryzen 7040 (H/U series) | AMD Ryzen 6000 AMDRyzen 7035 |
AMD Ryzen 5000 (H/U series) | AMD Ryzen 4000 (H/U series) | AMD Ryzen 3000 (H/U series) | AMD Ryzen 2000 (H/U series) |
Node process | 5nm | 4nm | 4nm | 4nm | 5nm | 4nm | 6nm | 7nm | 7nm | 12 nm | 14nm |
Core CPU architecture | Zen 5 | Zen 5 | Zen 5 + Zen 5C | Zen 4 | Zen 4 | Zen 4 | Zen 3+ | Zen 3 | Zen 2 | Zen+ | Zen 1 |
CPU cores/threads (maximum) | 16/32 | 16/32 | 12/24 | 8/16 | 16/32 | 8/16 | 8/16 | 8/16 | 8/16 | 4/8 | 4/8 |
L2 cache (maximum) | to be defined | to be defined | to be defined | 4MB | 16MB | 4MB | 4MB | 4MB | 4MB | 2MB | 2MB |
L3 cache (maximum) | to be defined | 64MB | 32MB | 16MB | 32MB | 16MB | 16MB | 16MB | 8MB | 4MB | 4MB |
Maximum CPU clocks | to be defined | to be defined | to be defined | to be defined | 5.4GHz | 5.2GHz | 5.0GHz (Ryzen 9 6980HX) | 4.80GHz (Ryzen 9 5980HX) | 4.3GHz (Ryzen 9 4900HS) | 4.0GHz (Ryzen 7 3750H) | 3.8GHz (Ryzen 7 2800H) |
GPU core architecture | iGPU RDNA 3+ 4nm | iGPU RDNA 3+ 4nm | iGPU RDNA 3+ 4nm | iGPU RDNA 3+ 4nm | 6nm RDNA 2 iGPU | iGPU RDNA 3 4nm | 6nm RDNA 2 iGPU | Vega enhanced 7nm | Vega enhanced 7nm | Vega 14nm | Vega 14nm |
Maximum number of GPU cores | 2 CUs (128 cores) | 40 CUs (2560 cores) | 16 CUs (1024 cores) | 12 CUs (786 cores) | 2 CUs (128 cores) | 12 CUs (786 cores) | 12 CUs (786 cores) | 8 CUs (512 cores) | 8 CUs (512 cores) | 10 CUs (640 cores) | 11 CUs (704 cores) |
Maximum GPU clocks | to be defined | to be defined | to be defined | to be defined | 2200Mhz | 2800Mhz | 2400Mhz | 2100Mhz | 1750MHz | 1400Mhz | 1300MHz |
TDP (cTDP Down/Up) | 55W-75W (65W cTDP) | 25-1250W | 15W-45W (65W cTDP) | 15W-45W (65W cTDP) | 55W-75W (65W cTDP) | 15W-45W (65W cTDP) | 15W-55W (65W cTDP) | 15W-54W(54W cTDP) | 15W-45W (65W cTDP) | 12-35W (35W cTDP) | 35W-45W (65W cTDP) |
Launch | 2H 2024? | 2H 2024? | 2H 2024? | Q1 2024? | Q1 2023 | Q2 2023 | Q1 2022 | Q1 2021 | Q2 2020 | Q1 2019 | Q4 2018 |